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Safari and htaccess problem
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ANC
2006-09-20 18:44:54 UTC
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This may be wrong forum and if so please direct me.

I have a brand new Mac Mini and am using the Safari browser. I'm pretty
savvy with computer systems (but not OS-X).

On my web server (off-site) I have phpMyAdmin and in its folder I have
the htaccess file below. The first time I went to the phpMyAdmin URL
Safari DID ask me for the password/user. Good. Fine. But it never has
again!

I tried on wife's new MacBook and it asked for the pass/user... but I
didn't fill it in. So 'first time' is good. But never again does Safari
prompt for user/pass (if entered.)

It just brings up the page.

I've cleared the cache, cleaned cookies, I've looked in Safari's
user/password list in preferences, I've looked at auto-fill for forms,
I've closed Safari, and I think I've even restarted the Mac. But it
still sees me as a current session and never asks me for the user/pass.
I'm pretty good at this stuff, but I'm stumped.

This does not happen on my Linux machine running FireFox. Anyone have
any ideas? Its not a htaccess issue but a Safari one (so I'm told by my
web host experts)... and I can't figure it out. Maybe there is something
in Keychains (whatever that is... I know enough about OS-X to be
dangerous!)

Thanks,
Al

## password begin ##
AuthUserFile /usr/www/yyyyyyy/zzzzzz/xxxxxxx/.aaaaaaaa
AuthName "Protected"
AuthType Basic
<Limit GET POST PUT>
require valid-user
</Limit>
<Files .aaaaaaa>
deny from all
</Files>
Steve W. Jackson
2006-09-20 19:24:47 UTC
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Post by ANC
This may be wrong forum and if so please direct me.
I have a brand new Mac Mini and am using the Safari browser. I'm pretty
savvy with computer systems (but not OS-X).
On my web server (off-site) I have phpMyAdmin and in its folder I have
the htaccess file below. The first time I went to the phpMyAdmin URL
Safari DID ask me for the password/user. Good. Fine. But it never has
again!
I tried on wife's new MacBook and it asked for the pass/user... but I
didn't fill it in. So 'first time' is good. But never again does Safari
prompt for user/pass (if entered.)
It just brings up the page.
I've cleared the cache, cleaned cookies, I've looked in Safari's
user/password list in preferences, I've looked at auto-fill for forms,
I've closed Safari, and I think I've even restarted the Mac. But it
still sees me as a current session and never asks me for the user/pass.
I'm pretty good at this stuff, but I'm stumped.
This does not happen on my Linux machine running FireFox. Anyone have
any ideas? Its not a htaccess issue but a Safari one (so I'm told by my
web host experts)... and I can't figure it out. Maybe there is something
in Keychains (whatever that is... I know enough about OS-X to be
dangerous!)
Thanks,
Al
## password begin ##
AuthUserFile /usr/www/yyyyyyy/zzzzzz/xxxxxxx/.aaaaaaaa
AuthName "Protected"
AuthType Basic
<Limit GET POST PUT>
require valid-user
</Limit>
<Files .aaaaaaa>
deny from all
</Files>
Safari uses the Keychain for storing all the usernames and passwords it
remembers. I don't routinely use Safari, but when I went to it just now
to access my router, it retrieved the user/pass data from the login
Keychain rather than prompting me and comparing against stored data as
Firefox does.

Run the program /Applications/Utilities/Keychain Access.app. There you
should select the Passwords category, and then Internet. You should
readily be able to spot the one in question.

You'll have to tinker with Safari's settings if you want it not to
automatically store passwords in this way. And you can use that app to
engage some controls over just when keychain items can be used.

= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
ANC
2006-09-20 19:35:52 UTC
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Post by Steve W. Jackson
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Post by ANC
This may be wrong forum and if so please direct me.
I have a brand new Mac Mini and am using the Safari browser. I'm pretty
savvy with computer systems (but not OS-X).
On my web server (off-site) I have phpMyAdmin and in its folder I have
the htaccess file below. The first time I went to the phpMyAdmin URL
Safari DID ask me for the password/user. Good. Fine. But it never has
again!
I tried on wife's new MacBook and it asked for the pass/user... but I
didn't fill it in. So 'first time' is good. But never again does Safari
prompt for user/pass (if entered.)
It just brings up the page.
I've cleared the cache, cleaned cookies, I've looked in Safari's
user/password list in preferences, I've looked at auto-fill for forms,
I've closed Safari, and I think I've even restarted the Mac. But it
still sees me as a current session and never asks me for the user/pass.
I'm pretty good at this stuff, but I'm stumped.
This does not happen on my Linux machine running FireFox. Anyone have
any ideas? Its not a htaccess issue but a Safari one (so I'm told by my
web host experts)... and I can't figure it out. Maybe there is something
in Keychains (whatever that is... I know enough about OS-X to be
dangerous!)
Thanks,
Al
## password begin ##
AuthUserFile /usr/www/yyyyyyy/zzzzzz/xxxxxxx/.aaaaaaaa
AuthName "Protected"
AuthType Basic
<Limit GET POST PUT>
require valid-user
</Limit>
<Files .aaaaaaa>
deny from all
</Files>
Safari uses the Keychain for storing all the usernames and passwords it
remembers. I don't routinely use Safari, but when I went to it just now
to access my router, it retrieved the user/pass data from the login
Keychain rather than prompting me and comparing against stored data as
Firefox does.
Run the program /Applications/Utilities/Keychain Access.app. There you
should select the Passwords category, and then Internet. You should
readily be able to spot the one in question.
You'll have to tinker with Safari's settings if you want it not to
automatically store passwords in this way. And you can use that app to
engage some controls over just when keychain items can be used.
= Steve =
Yes, there are several entries in Keychains that go to that site. What
should I do? Can I delete these without screwing up anything. Basically,
in one long sentence what IS keychains? (I come from four years in the
Linux word... nicer here... but somewhat strange!)

I think you found 'the key' here Thanks a bunch. Awaiting your
instructions.

Al
Steve W. Jackson
2006-09-20 19:54:51 UTC
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Post by Steve W. Jackson
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Post by ANC
This may be wrong forum and if so please direct me.
I have a brand new Mac Mini and am using the Safari browser. I'm pretty
savvy with computer systems (but not OS-X).
On my web server (off-site) I have phpMyAdmin and in its folder I have
the htaccess file below. The first time I went to the phpMyAdmin URL
Safari DID ask me for the password/user. Good. Fine. But it never has
again!
I tried on wife's new MacBook and it asked for the pass/user... but I
didn't fill it in. So 'first time' is good. But never again does Safari
prompt for user/pass (if entered.)
It just brings up the page.
I've cleared the cache, cleaned cookies, I've looked in Safari's
user/password list in preferences, I've looked at auto-fill for forms,
I've closed Safari, and I think I've even restarted the Mac. But it
still sees me as a current session and never asks me for the user/pass.
I'm pretty good at this stuff, but I'm stumped.
This does not happen on my Linux machine running FireFox. Anyone have
any ideas? Its not a htaccess issue but a Safari one (so I'm told by my
web host experts)... and I can't figure it out. Maybe there is something
in Keychains (whatever that is... I know enough about OS-X to be
dangerous!)
Thanks,
Al
## password begin ##
AuthUserFile /usr/www/yyyyyyy/zzzzzz/xxxxxxx/.aaaaaaaa
AuthName "Protected"
AuthType Basic
<Limit GET POST PUT>
require valid-user
</Limit>
<Files .aaaaaaa>
deny from all
</Files>
Safari uses the Keychain for storing all the usernames and passwords it
remembers. I don't routinely use Safari, but when I went to it just now
to access my router, it retrieved the user/pass data from the login
Keychain rather than prompting me and comparing against stored data as
Firefox does.
Run the program /Applications/Utilities/Keychain Access.app. There you
should select the Passwords category, and then Internet. You should
readily be able to spot the one in question.
You'll have to tinker with Safari's settings if you want it not to
automatically store passwords in this way. And you can use that app to
engage some controls over just when keychain items can be used.
= Steve =
Yes, there are several entries in Keychains that go to that site. What
should I do? Can I delete these without screwing up anything. Basically,
in one long sentence what IS keychains? (I come from four years in the
Linux word... nicer here... but somewhat strange!)
I think you found 'the key' here Thanks a bunch. Awaiting your
instructions.
Al
A keychain is nothing more than a centralized location for storing
information -- typically user/password combinations. That's it. Since
it's integrated with the OS, any savvy Mac application can take
advantage of the APIs provided to use it should the app need to store
and/or retrieve such information.

If you want to delete the keychain entry you've found, the only "harm"
will be that you'll be prompted again when using Safari, since it won't
find a keychain entry for the location you're visiting. But I'm not
familiar enough with Safari's options to say just how you'd prevent it
from storing the item again should you go there.

= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
ANC
2006-09-20 20:05:44 UTC
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Post by Steve W. Jackson
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Post by ANC
This may be wrong forum and if so please direct me.
I have a brand new Mac Mini and am using the Safari browser. I'm pretty
savvy with computer systems (but not OS-X).
On my web server (off-site) I have phpMyAdmin and in its folder I have
the htaccess file below. The first time I went to the phpMyAdmin URL
Safari DID ask me for the password/user. Good. Fine. But it never has
again!
I tried on wife's new MacBook and it asked for the pass/user... but I
didn't fill it in. So 'first time' is good. But never again does Safari
prompt for user/pass (if entered.)
It just brings up the page.
I've cleared the cache, cleaned cookies, I've looked in Safari's
user/password list in preferences, I've looked at auto-fill for forms,
I've closed Safari, and I think I've even restarted the Mac. But it
still sees me as a current session and never asks me for the user/pass.
I'm pretty good at this stuff, but I'm stumped.
This does not happen on my Linux machine running FireFox. Anyone have
any ideas? Its not a htaccess issue but a Safari one (so I'm told by my
web host experts)... and I can't figure it out. Maybe there is something
in Keychains (whatever that is... I know enough about OS-X to be
dangerous!)
Thanks,
Al
## password begin ##
AuthUserFile /usr/www/yyyyyyy/zzzzzz/xxxxxxx/.aaaaaaaa
AuthName "Protected"
AuthType Basic
<Limit GET POST PUT>
require valid-user
</Limit>
<Files .aaaaaaa>
deny from all
</Files>
Safari uses the Keychain for storing all the usernames and passwords it
remembers. I don't routinely use Safari, but when I went to it just now
to access my router, it retrieved the user/pass data from the login
Keychain rather than prompting me and comparing against stored data as
Firefox does.
Run the program /Applications/Utilities/Keychain Access.app. There you
should select the Passwords category, and then Internet. You should
readily be able to spot the one in question.
You'll have to tinker with Safari's settings if you want it not to
automatically store passwords in this way. And you can use that app to
engage some controls over just when keychain items can be used.
= Steve =
Yes, there are several entries in Keychains that go to that site. What
should I do? Can I delete these without screwing up anything. Basically,
in one long sentence what IS keychains? (I come from four years in the
Linux word... nicer here... but somewhat strange!)
I think you found 'the key' here Thanks a bunch. Awaiting your
instructions.
Al
A keychain is nothing more than a centralized location for storing
information -- typically user/password combinations. That's it. Since
it's integrated with the OS, any savvy Mac application can take
advantage of the APIs provided to use it should the app need to store
and/or retrieve such information.
If you want to delete the keychain entry you've found, the only "harm"
will be that you'll be prompted again when using Safari, since it won't
find a keychain entry for the location you're visiting. But I'm not
familiar enough with Safari's options to say just how you'd prevent it
from storing the item again should you go there.
= Steve =
I deleted the key entry in the list and now I GET THE PROMPT from
Safari. I must have clicked the "save to keychain" box one time not
knowing what I was doing. Thank you. I really appreciate the assistance.

Al

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